Curse

Hanging Man · Aug 12, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Im not sure if this is a build already, but it works good for me so i decided to post it. This build will deal with interrupting you Im a R/Mo but you could change it around if you are a different prof.

Skills
Practiced Stance {Elite}
Choking Gas
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Throw Dirt
Healing Spring
Rebirth {replace with preffered rez}

Attributes
Portection Prayers - 2
Expertise - 11
Wilderness Survival - 14
Marksmanship - 10

Equipment
I used a set of Droks Druids Armor for the energy bonus
And for my bow I used Chkkrs Flatbow and I switched on and off with Rotwings Recurve

IF this Build already exists or is similiar to another build I wasn't aware so if I didn't thank anyone I'm Sorry But This Build went pretty well for me in FoW. Give me some feedback or hints to help tweak it

SaladFork · Aug 12, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

If you want to focus on interrupt a bit more, I'd switch Practied Stance with Broad Head Arrow.

~Salad

Hanging Man · Aug 12, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13

ya thats a good idea but i like how practiced stances recharges choking gas faster and makes it last longer but ill consider replacing it thanx

Arturo02 · Aug 12, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

what is your eighth skill?

K U J A · Aug 12, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50

This is basically what an HA Choking Gaz ranger uses. I dont think the healing spring will come in very handy in FoW since you got all the monks, throw dirt is usefull. You might wanna add Whirling Defense though, just in case. And if you want, go R/W and take flurry for more interrupts.

Amy Awien · Aug 12, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

You don't need to be sorry or thank anyone, it's your own build.

But I'd take a look at your attributes, 11 expertise will not do you as much good as 12 or 13, 12 will bring E10 skills down to 5 while 13 will bring E5 skills back to 3.

Practiced Stance was meant to be used with Choking Gas (and Seeking Arrows since Factions), it has little other use since other preparations are either elite or last longer then their recharge. Convenience, like in ~1 minute of Kindle, usually does not warrant taking an elite.

If you switch secondary to /W, add Flurry you basically have what is called the Choking Gas Ranger.

I run something similar with R/W: Practiced Stance, Choking Gas, Flurry, Needling Shot, Kindle/RtW/Seeking/Savage, Distracting Shot, Whirling Defense/Throw Dirt, Trolls Unguent. [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], Vamp Flatbow, Stance/Prep armor, druids is not needed.
Works real nice in PvE, though I suspect human casters will prove more difficult. Use with a Flatbow or Shortbow to increase firing rate. If you manipulate your henchies you can frequently keep a group neatly together and choking gas will shut down nearly all casters in that group.

Dyon Adell · Aug 12, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

If you even want to consider replacing Practiced Stance, don't consider Broadhead Arrow. Punishing Shot is a much better interrupt. You're talking about an interrupt build, not a dazing build. And Punishing Shot is a much better choice for many reasons, previously discussed before.

Amy Awien · Aug 12, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

And where would they have been discussed before?

Punishing Shot can neither replace Broad Head Arrow, nor Practiced Stance+Choking Gas, Punishing Shot interupts only once every 8 seconds, the others can interupt spells every 1.33 seconds.
A dazed caster will have their spells interupted by any hit, the effect is similar to Choking Gas, hence, BHA could with some effort be seen as a replacement for Practiced Stance + Choking Gas, Punishing Shot can not.

Hanging Man · Aug 12, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

the only problem with broad head is I don't have factions yet so i can't use any factions skills. So this is a build for prophecies

SaladFork · Aug 13, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

But I'd take a look at your attributes, 11 expertise will not do you as much good as 12 or 13, 12 will bring E10 skills down to 5 while 13 will bring E5 skills back to 3.

According to the GWiki page on Expertise, 13 Expertise would bring an E5 skill to 2, not 3. Just a minor correction,

~Salad

Amy Awien · Aug 13, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Ouch, yes, you are right.

Solvi · Aug 15, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Ok....these builds are all over the place but i will through my 2 cents in.
PVP INTERUPT BUILD R/ME
Trolls
RTW
Punishing shot (e)
savage shot
distracting shot
leech sig
Whirling defense
and REZ (please!!!)....

Yes punishing shot is a little slower but that is why you also have the other interupts. and it does interupt skills and sigs as well where Choking gas dosent. I cant vouch for broadhead but i heard it is easily dodged and high cost makes it a waste of elite especially when concusion does basically the same thing.

PVE INTERUPT BUILD R/MO
Trolls
Fav Winds
Practiced Stance (e)
Chocking Gas
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Whirling Defense
Rebirth

I know some people dont like Fav winds but i think the benifits outweigh the negatives...(pve only though) and rtw isnt practical with practice stance which is needed just to make choking gas worth bringing but once you get that longer duration on C.G. look out. It takes out a.i. casters big time...like previously stated try to get them to clump together and get them stuck in choke points so you can spread that gas around. But it basically shuts them down...bring savage and distracting for skills and sigs...I have tried other interupt builds out and these two work the best for me....but when it comes down to it i think each person needs to try differnt builds and just pick the one that works the best for them.

Orange Milk · Aug 15, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Punishing Shot > BHA IMO

with savage+distracting+punishing you can interupt anything really

alot of folks say BHA is a MUST on Baloris Seabd (spelling?) to kill the Kracken.
I don't take it and the mission never takes longer than 13 mins and the Kracken NEVER gets of any casts. But hey thats PvE.

In PvP you need to use distracting right, to intrupt a spell to disable, if you interupt the right spell it cfan real hurt a persons build not having it for 20secs, time savage and punishing right and you can slaughter people, Its all about timing and predicability.

Solvi · Aug 15, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Punishing Shot > BHA IMO

with savage+distracting+punishing you can interupt anything really

alot of folks say BHA is a MUST on Baloris Seabd (spelling?) to kill the Kracken.
I don't take it and the mission never takes longer than 13 mins and the Kracken NEVER gets of any casts. But hey thats PvE.

In PvP you need to use distracting right, to intrupt a spell to disable, if you interupt the right spell it cfan real hurt a persons build not having it for 20secs, time savage and punishing right and you can slaughter people, Its all about timing and predicability.

Too right Orange Milk!!

It's funny that you mention the boreas seabed mission. I did it just last night with a pug. I was teh only ranger and i had savage-distracting-leech sig and concussion. Did it with masters and i never used concussion shot casue i never had the nrg for it....the kraken seemed like the esiest part of the mission but we also had a pretty good pug so who knows.

DeanBB · Aug 15, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I too prefer the trio of punishing + distracting + savage, there's pretty much always an interrupt ready when you need one and they interrupt anything. When I haven't needed to interrupt a target I'll spam them and have interrupted things like Cleave before.

That's not to say there's anything wrong with the OP's build, both work, it is a matter of preference. You can use your prep for additional damage with the trio build though.

Amy Awien · Aug 15, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Hanging Man

the only problem with broad head is I don't have factions yet so i can't use any factions skills. So this is a build for prophecies

BHA isn't important, it does about the same thing as Choking Gas, with the advantage that the hits of your teammates will also interrupt while Choking Gas has the advantage that it interrupts adjacent foes also, and it cannot be blocked or evaded.

Possible improvement to your posted build could lie in a different attribute distribution - 11 expertise doesn't seem as usefull as 12 or 13 - and the application of an attack speed increasing skill, like Tiger's Fury (Beastmastery), Lightning Reflexes or Flurry (Warrior secondary).

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Originally Posted by Solvi

... the boreas seabed mission. ...

Yes, well, as an aside, I used the CG build in Boreas and we - the PuG I was in - did it masters - the first time I was there - with a dropout. It was probably a decent PuG but I still felt the CG build was a successfull experiment.

Solvi · Aug 16, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

Yes, well, as an aside, I used the CG build in Boreas and we - the PuG I was in - did it masters - the first time I was there - with a dropout. It was probably a decent PuG but I still felt the CG build was a successfull experiment.

Oh god...I love that choking gas build. I bet it worked great for that mission... I actually would have taken that build if i knew what i was getting into (my first time as well) but we ended up with masters anyways so good enough.

Detis Zan · Aug 16, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Wow really I just had a PUG that wanted me to be an interrupt. Well I never done it (Only needling build) before so I search and found this thread.

Thing is I have 13expert, 6 wilderness, 16 marks and I just went with Concussion shot, distracting, and savage. That boreas mission was very easy after I added concussion to the kraken =P The rest of my skills were read the wind lighting relfexes and troll with rez.

Glad I found this though so I can use Choking gas to my benefit.

Also why use BHA when Concussion is the same thing with a shorter recharge time? I know BHA just puts daze on them but CG just makes it just as easy.

And if you can't get practiced stance I geuss you could use Serpent's Quickness?

Solvi · Aug 16, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Detis Zan

And if you can't get practiced stance I geuss you could use Serpent's Quickness?

Yes SQ reduces your recharge time like PS but that really isnt the point in using PS with CG. Where PS really shines is when it lengthens the duration of stances....therefor lenghtening CG from an insignificant 8 or 9 seconds to up around 24 or so seconds....all depending on you attb. of course.

SnipiousMax · Aug 16, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by Solvi

Where PS really shines is when it lengthens the duration of stances....

Quick revision: Preperations.

(But that's what you meant)